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What do you think?
Advantage
50%
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Non-Advantage
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Cheat
8%
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PostSubject: The Building Bar Debate (Advantage or non-advtge)   Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:18 pm

Building Bars,

Do you believe they are advantage or non-advanatge? or would you go as far to say they are cheats?

Discuss.
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PostSubject: Re: The Building Bar Debate (Advantage or non-advtge)   Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:33 pm

i say there an adavntge be cause i know i ahve them but still u constely wacth whats get hurt and makeing urself a "camper" = game no fun i just wish whoever made the bb would never of made them
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PostSubject: Re: The Building Bar Debate (Advantage or non-advtge)   Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:40 pm

this topic=OMG!
ever heard of 'K' same idea, ffs! Just takes the time away, wow guys

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PostSubject: Re: The Building Bar Debate (Advantage or non-advtge)   Fri Sep 11, 2009 9:28 pm

Lol everyone who uses it prob says it's non-advantage ;p

Imo,
it's advantage, maybe even a 'cheat'.

Because you are able to see more of the game than other players,
noone is watching 'K' (if that's the button for watching the building hp) everytime,
I, myself, hardly uses the K button.

In times of a stank rush for example,
you AIN'T pressing 'K' to watch building hp,
but with the bars, you can see 'oh that building is weekened!' 'let me tell my team ATTACK THAT STRUCTURE'

But oh well,
if people need more info than others because less skill,
let them^^

I think it's more a challenge to use LESS info than default,
because you get more skilled in a way.
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PostSubject: Re: The Building Bar Debate (Advantage or non-advtge)   Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:09 pm

I think advantage because now you can just take a look at the building health

while walking and you see if there are enemies you see everything.

With the K button you have to stand still and look really over the whole page.

But I like Building Bars.
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PostSubject: Re: The Building Bar Debate (Advantage or non-advtge)   Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:39 pm

Advantage, but so see if it is a cheat, you first need to discuss about the definition of a cheat.
A cheat gives a player an advantage uppon another player.
The buildingsbars do give an advantage. So they would be cheats.
But then again so do clar sniper scope, shell emitters, vehicle lamp emitters, stealth skins, reticle skins etc..
Much of those are widiely accepted in renegade and not counted as a cheat.
The buildingbars are on the edge between a cheat and a advantage skin. They are an advantage skin, but they are not widely accepted in renegade. So it's your own opinion to decide what they are.
You can discuss this endless with 100 of pages, but in the end it wouldn't help anything.
Then again, the gps hud also gives a great advantage, with doublenuking for example or tunnelnuking. So why doesn't the renegade community flame on the gps hud? I think it is because off all the people who show off with their buildingbars, others get jealus and started screaming they shouldn't be allowed, the gps hud is released (by different people) and is now accepted, maybe if hte buildingbars get released and everyone can use them, that would even it out again, and removing the unfair advantage.
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PostSubject: Re: The Building Bar Debate (Advantage or non-advtge)   Sat Sep 12, 2009 12:22 am

gnoepower wrote:
the gps hud is released (by different people) and is now accepted, maybe if hte buildingbars get released and everyone can use them, that would even it out again, and removing the unfair advantage.
wanna know why? cause when its public everyone can get it, and then it would be "accepted" by most people, as it no longer will give some players the advantage, cause then everyone got the same stuff. or atleast the bb's. but theres one massive problem here, ONLY the pro skinners or the one with good connection gets teh BB, creating the advantage/cheat which people say today. I personally would like if the BB never existed, but i'd probably use it if i got my hands on it.
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PostSubject: Re: The Building Bar Debate (Advantage or non-advtge)   Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:04 am

Kimbo wrote:
gnoepower wrote:
the gps hud is released (by different people) and is now accepted, maybe if hte buildingbars get released and everyone can use them, that would even it out again, and removing the unfair advantage.
wanna know why? cause when its public everyone can get it, and then it would be "accepted" by most people, as it no longer will give some players the advantage, cause then everyone got the same stuff. or atleast the bb's. but theres one massive problem here, ONLY the pro skinners or the one with good connection gets teh BB, creating the advantage/cheat which people say today. I personally would like if the BB never existed, but i'd probably use it if i got my hands on it.
You need more programming skills than skinning skills to create the bb.
But then again, there is a second thing. Like everyone can get rgh to, so following that conclusion rgh wouldn't be a cheat to.
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PostSubject: Re: The Building Bar Debate (Advantage or non-advtge)   Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:12 am

aimbot is a cheat, i look at BB as advantage
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PostSubject: Re: The Building Bar Debate (Advantage or non-advtge)   Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:28 am

i agree with gnoe
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PostSubject: Re: The Building Bar Debate (Advantage or non-advtge)   Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:57 am

Here is my take on it.

It is defiantly advantage and anyone who says other wise is full of it. First hand experance with them i and tell what is being hit right away and what needs repair right away, because no one (no matter what you say) button mashes "K" every 2 seconds. I can intantly find out what building is hit, and to be honest, i love it.

Until it is said to be cheat by Jelly-Serv then only will i stop using them. but other wise, im keeping them.
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PostSubject: Re: The Building Bar Debate (Advantage or non-advtge)   Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:35 pm

Wow where can i get building bars, or "how" to make them
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PostSubject: Re: The Building Bar Debate (Advantage or non-advtge)   Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:42 pm

SSIDJTHED wrote:
Wow where can i get building bars, or "how" to make them

You Can't and You Won't.
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PostSubject: Re: The Building Bar Debate (Advantage or non-advtge)   Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:07 pm

WubWub! hah love your name lol
anyway, ITS a little advantage for servers with SSGM, sometimes EVA dont says when a Building gets attacked (little bug) and by using HP Bars you see when its damaged but heh, i dont care lol
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PostSubject: Re: The Building Bar Debate (Advantage or non-advtge)   Sat Sep 12, 2009 11:44 pm

Yep mrackz

for instance n00bless says when a building is low health or damaged
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PostSubject: Re: The Building Bar Debate (Advantage or non-advtge)   Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:44 am

[quote="GoldDrag"]Yep mrackz


True, but i play in Jelly and in jelly most of the pro's hit 1 building to get that message to pop up then attack another. With bb you can tell which building they're hitting right away
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PostSubject: Re: The Building Bar Debate (Advantage or non-advtge)   Sun Sep 13, 2009 4:57 am

[quote="WubWub"]
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Yep mrackz


True, but i play in Jelly and in jelly most of the pro's hit 1 building to get that message to pop up then attack another. With bb you can tell which building they're hitting right away
And that's where the advantage is....
But if you need it, enjoy being unfair to others =D
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PostSubject: Re: The Building Bar Debate (Advantage or non-advtge)   Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:41 am

[quote="woandre"]
WubWub wrote:
GoldDrag wrote:
Yep mrackz


True, but i play in Jelly and in jelly most of the pro's hit 1 building to get that message to pop up then attack another. With bb you can tell which building they're hitting right away
And that's where the advantage is....
But if you need it, enjoy being unfair to others =D
And how about: clear scope, bright skins fo rsnipers/ mines/ timeds/ remotes, reticles, stealth effect skins, using f8 toggle_sorting on islands????
Buildingbars should be between thos ein my opninion.
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PostSubject: Re: The Building Bar Debate (Advantage or non-advtge)   Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:52 am

what is toggle sorting on islands..?
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PostSubject: Re: The Building Bar Debate (Advantage or non-advtge)   Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:02 am

Farheen wrote:
what is toggle sorting on islands..?
It's a bug, that gives you an unfair advantage in the isladns tunnels. It is solved by rr though.
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PostSubject: Re: The Building Bar Debate (Advantage or non-advtge)   Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:01 am

[quote="gnoepower"]
woandre wrote:
WubWub wrote:
GoldDrag wrote:
Yep mrackz


True, but i play in Jelly and in jelly most of the pro's hit 1 building to get that message to pop up then attack another. With bb you can tell which building they're hitting right away
And that's where the advantage is....
But if you need it, enjoy being unfair to others =D
And how about: clear scope, bright skins fo rsnipers/ mines/ timeds/ remotes, reticles, stealth effect skins, using f8 toggle_sorting on islands????
Buildingbars should be between thos ein my opninion.
I never said those weren't advantage?
Even though I've never seen clear scope,
I believe many said it's very unfair too.

It's sad if u need those advantages to play the game,
but nothing can be done about it so meh Smile
Thatswhy I only play the game for fun,
never for really being the pro-guy.
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PostSubject: Re: The Building Bar Debate (Advantage or non-advtge)   Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:03 am

I use clear scope because others do aswell and I think if they have it why not me Wink
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PostSubject: Re: The Building Bar Debate (Advantage or non-advtge)   Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:19 am

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I use clear scope because others do aswell and I think if they have it why not me Wink
Please don't say things like that.
He uses damage hack, so I use damage hack to???
It may be a bit of an extreme example, but if someone else uses unfair advantages it doens't mean you should do the same. For example there life 17 million people in the Netherlands, 12 million of those have the abillity to think, and decide what they should do, and how they should handle. The other 5 million are idiots, the're sheeps. They follow oter people without thinking.

I hope you know wich part you are.
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PostSubject: Re: The Building Bar Debate (Advantage or non-advtge)   Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:12 am

gnoepower wrote:
GoldDrag wrote:
I use clear scope because others do aswell and I think if they have it why not me Wink
Please don't say things like that.
He uses damage hack, so I use damage hack to???
It may be a bit of an extreme example, but if someone else uses unfair advantages it doens't mean you should do the same. For example there life 17 million people in the Netherlands, 12 million of those have the abillity to think, and decide what they should do, and how they should handle. The other 5 million are idiots, the're sheeps. They follow oter people without thinking.

I hope you know wich part you are.

im defently the
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sheeps
(i dont think you use "s" in sheep on english, its like sheep sheep sheep, or am i dead on wrong)
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PostSubject: Re: The Building Bar Debate (Advantage or non-advtge)   Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:15 am

it is sheep, lol u are right kimb
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